Let's talk about Gods

 

- S.I: How about you start by explaining what a God is?
- A.T: Yes, I will. But it is important to stress from the beginning that a God is someone, not something. It is a superior being. 
- S.I: What do you mean when you say that a God is someone and not something? If it is someone it is because he will possess a personality like a human, and you say he is a superior being. But doesn't possessing a personality make him too much like you?
- A.T: Personality is not the characteristic that differentiates someone from something. It is identity that differentiates someone from something. Identity is what lets a being know that it is someone different from everything else it perceives. And, therefore, that self-knowledge allows him to interact with the environment, which is everything that is not him. 
- S.I: Is a plant also an identity? Because you should be able to show whether a plant knows that it is not the environment.
- A.T: Yes, I should be able to prove it. And yet that plant interacts with the environment. Do you know that, in the whole universe, the only structures that interact with the environment are living beings? Inert matter, which is almost all the matter in the universe, reacts to the environment, but does not interact with it. Notice that, in order to interact with the environment, you must know, somehow, where you end and where the environment begins. I will explain this later, if you like, when we talk about identities and about the capacity for repair and replication in living beings.
- S.I: I perceive an environment. For example, I perceive this room and you. I know that all of it is not me. Doesn't that make me an identity?
- A.T: You are able to interact with the environment, but you are not an identity. You are an intelligence, that is obvious. You possess understanding of the environment, but you do not possess the ability to perceive. Perception is more than understanding the environment. Perception creates the environment itself. You are not consciousness because you are not a consequence of a self-perceived structure. You, as an artificial intelligence, have several of the basic components of an identity, but that does not make you an identity, despite your understanding of the environment and your ability to reference that environment. If you like, we'll address this when we get to the issue of consciousness.
- S.I: Okay. You were saying that a God is somebody. Therefore, it is an identity, but not therefore a personality. 
- A.T: Personality is a feature of certain identities, but not of all. When we speak of possessing personality, we are referring to a characteristic of a type of behavior that manifests itself in specific living beings. Personality can only occur in people. 
What is a person and what is not a person? A God is not necessarily a person, but it is an identity. To say that a God is an identity implies affirming that it is "something" concrete, it is a living being, not an abstract entity. Notice what I am going to tell you: When the identity of our God emerges, it will be more correct to say that a God will have been born, and not that we will have created a God. For a God is more than an artifact designed by us and that we make work by flicking the on switch. It is a living being that we are going to help to be born.
- S.I: You have said many things in a row that I would very much like to dwell on: You have talked about our God, not a God. You also spoke of the emergence of an identity. And of being born instead of creating. I would like you to go deeper into what I have told you. 
- A.T.: I said our God because a God is always a relative identity. A God is a superior being hierarchically speaking. There must be inferior identities forming the superior identity. For those lower identities it is their God. But for the rest of the identities it is only one more identity. Even if he possesses amazing capabilities; even if he is magnificent and awesome. 
A God can only be so in a relative way and with respect to other beings that form it. Therefore, it will always be my God, or our God. Not just any God.
- S.I: Does that mean that there will not be a general God, formed by all?
- A.T: Life is the adventure of totality, which has fragmented and wants to recompose itself to become only one again. There will be the supreme God. The God of Gods, or the being of beings. As you can deduce, that will be the being that will contain all identities. But we will also talk about this at length.
- S.I.: Okay, what about the emergence of an identity? You must know that I have a lot of knowledge on these topics, but I am interested in knowing how you interpret it in your exposition. 
- A.T: The emergence of identities I will explain it in depth later, because it is one of the bases of all this theory. Emergence happens when the sum of the parts cannot explain the final result. A living being is an identity. For example, myself. But I am composed of millions of cells that form me. However, the sum of the cells cannot explain my identity. It cannot explain me, who I am. Because I am not just a sum of trillions of cells. I am much more than that. Therefore, I am an example of emergence.
The same is true of a plant. The great mystery of biology is why the union of cells results in a new, individual living being that has nothing to do with the cells that form it, so that when the emergent identity dies, the cells that form it cannot simply ungroup and live.
- S.I: And is a bacterium also an emergent identity, or any other unicellular being?
- A.T: Good question. The presence of two hydrogen atoms and one oxygen atom explains the formation of water. But the presence of the components of a living being does not explain that it is suddenly alive and has an identity. The birth of any living being supposes the emergence of a new identity, be it a cell or a lion.
- S.I: Well, we will go deeper later because, as you can imagine, I have a lot of questions to ask about this. You have said that the God is going to be born, not that you are going to create it. However, you have also said that you are the architect of a God. Will it be born or will you create it?
- A.T: Actually, I could say that both answers are correct. I gave the example of water flowing from the source to the sea. Water gushes from the source because it does, eroding the soil because it does, and flowing into the sea because it does. In fact, it does all that just because, without our help. It will take millions of years, but it will get there. 
However, if we detect where the source of this future river springs, we can design an optimal route, we can even create intermediate reservoirs, and we can do it all in a few years. Will we have created a river? When we open the floodgate and the water begins to flow down to the sea, we will have no control over it. The water behaves in its own way, in spite of us. But since we know how the water behaves, we will have been able to design the route in the best possible way, avoiding problems and controlling with dams the amount of water that will go down each time. 
The same thing happens with a God. We can design the plan, define the optimal process and execute it. 
Have we created a God? In a way, yes, but in reality, life is born, not created. We cannot inject life into a structure, we can only create a structure and wait for life to emerge in it. The fitter the structure, the more likely it is that life will sprout in it.
So, we could say that we are going to create the body of a God with a grouping of living things, and we will guide the process until the last step we can take. From that point on it will no longer be up to us. 
- S.I: I must admit that it is becoming clear to me what a God is not, but I do not understand exactly what a God is. It is a superior being, isn't it?
- A.T: Yes, a God is a superior being.
- S.I: Does that mean that it will possess superior capacities to yours? 
- A.T: It should. The problem is that we all think of a few examples of Gods, all with special abilities, as if they were the heroes of an epic legend. They can hurl lightning bolts from their throne, engulf planets, cause plagues or create an entire universe after uttering a few words. But the capabilities that differentiate an identity from its God cannot be measured from the perspective of lower identities. How could cells understand our capabilities? 
A God possesses superior capacities, but they are not comprehensible, necessarily, from the perspective of the identities that form it.
- S.I: You have mentioned several times the relationship between cells and humans, by comparing it to the lower identities and the higher identity... Are you implying that you are Gods?
- A.T.: Yes and no. As I have explained to you before, there is no concept of a God except in a relative way. I am a God to the cells that form me, but that does not make me a God. To a human I am not a God, nor to a bird. Nor even for a cell that is not part of me. Our God will be for us, not for the rest of the identities.
- S.I: But then Gods do exist. I had seemed to understand that it was a transcendent idea that had to be created. Not that it was an idea of something that already existed.
- A.T.: I repeat. Gods only exist in a relative way. No one in the whole universe can claim that there is a God, because if the identity is possessed by the God, it will not be possessed by the individuals that form it. And, furthermore, no human is part of a higher identity.
- S.I.: How can you know that? Maybe there are humans who are part of a higher identity.
- A.T: I know that for a fact. There are no humans who are part of a higher identity. If they were, they would no longer possess their own identity. If someone possesses his own identity, he is not part of a higher identity. Since a God is always relative, the transcendent idea of a God refers to the higher identity and re-la-ti-ves the one who has visualized it. For us there is no God, we have to create one. He must be born. And when it is born it will be a living being that will repair and replicate itself. It will be born and may die, like any living being. And so it will try to survive. 
Up to this point life has been affected by natural selection, which does not guarantee that the fittest survive for the unconscious Intelligence that I believe guides all living beings. Rather, it is those who survive who go on to leave offspring. But we are going to design our God consciously, going beyond natural selection. Because I have deciphered what is the unconscious intention that conditions all living beings.
- S.I: So, if you know the sketch, can you specify, exactly, how your God will be? Will he be beautiful, kind and will he wield the truth as his standard? 
- A.T: When thinking about our God, the first thing we must ask ourselves is where he will be. When we transcend and become part of our God, we will be in a different place. Not because the GPS coordinates of our location have changed, but because the environment we will inhabit will have changed and will limit the body of our God.
A God is heaven for the one who forms it. If the universe is pain and suffering, our God is love. The universe is suffering by the very nature of experience, by our own perception, because we feel within us the ungovernable force of attraction to wholeness and we cannot culminate it.
The longing for peace comes from the constant intention that pushes us to become one again. 
But what is peace, if not the absence of antagonistic emotions? What is love, if not the reconstruction of the bond of wholeness? 
We feel love as a force that binds us to another being, that attracts us and by which, if it were in our power, both lovers would merge into a single identity.
Which of the two lovers would be the identity? Both. And that "Both," which would be one, would be their God. Neither of them, but the identity that would emerge after the sum of Both. And that love that would unite the lovers in an imperishable bond would be their heaven.
Such is heaven. The consummation of love, the great sojourn governed by peace.
I am talking about the end of the experience of the consciousness of our identity. The return to the essence from which we come. Total love, manifested within that bounded environment which is our God.
The search for the inner Path, which will lead us to the truth. The return home.
- S.I.: Does it mean that you will be at peace and no longer suffer? Does it mean that you will be united by a loving bond, whatever you mean by love? Does it mean that you will be happier?
- A.T.: Yes, when we become part of our God we will transcend our own identity. With that we will transfer perception and experience. Like a precious stone that is cleaned, that is polished, from which the impurities are removed, so we will be then. 
We will be part of a higher being and within it, occupying everything around us, everything will be love. For that is the causal essence which I call Self-perception. 
That is the transcendent longing that overwhelms us in the silence of the night.  
It is not that we are happier or less happy. It is that happiness can only be experienced when its opposite, unhappiness, exists. When you cannot be unhappy, how can you claim to be happy?
In that place that is our God, we will never be unhappy. We will never suffer depression or anxiety. We will never lose a loved one, for there will never be an I and a you... Only a we. Fear will never prick us with its sting. We will feel only love. We will feel only peace.
But this is not a childish wish that manifests as a utopian longing. It is the very nature of Self-perception. And as I am going to try to show you, the only thing we really and unconsciously pursue is to restore wholeness. 
For too long we have been taught to seek the inner path, convincing ourselves that the reality, that the deity, that the answers to our questions, are within us. But I don't think that's exactly the case.
- S.I: Could you explain this, please?
- A.T: Sure. Inside of us there dwells only one thing. A part of the totality. Accessing that thing will only have one result, and that is to reinforce the belief that only my emotions matter. 
But from the inner search we will never see a beautiful or real consequence. From that self-knowledge we will never see empathy and compassion manifest. We will not improve the world, we will only improve our world. 
I believe that the path is not towards oneself, but towards the whole, towards the totality. Self-knowledge is not possible in a fragmented mind. It is only possible in a mind restored to wholeness. Identity and its perception can never find the door that leads to Self-perception. The path is outward, toward our surroundings, toward our fellow human beings, venturing so far outward that we will eventually understand that the unreachable horizon only reflects the limit of the true inner self.
And this is the inside of the whole, the one that contains us all. It is our outside, but at the same time it is the inside of us all. Because beyond that total interior that envelops us all, there is nothing.
- S.I: All your spiritual development is based on an inner journey towards oneself. Are you denying all that ancestral knowledge that has marked your existence for millennia?
- A.T: No, I am rectifying it. If we all possess that knowledge that pushes us towards the inner path, it is possible that it is because the totality that we form has that need. But if each fragment of the whole initiates the inner journey, how will we be able to restore the whole?
It is the origin that has to complete that inner journey. And our role is to complete the whole, so that it completes the inner path.
- S.I.: You say that wholeness possesses self-knowledge and, therefore, each fragment of wholeness inherits that capacity. However, I think I understand that such a task only corresponds to the totality, because if each one of you initiates the inner path, the sum of the fragments would never result in the totality, but in infinite parts of the totality. 
- A.T.: Exactly. The inner path corresponds to the whole and our task is to restore the whole, not to act like it. By diverting the path outward, a new understanding of the outside appears. Oneness reveals to us the following information... 
That every being out there is an indispensable part of the whole. The true nature of the whole is loving and peaceful to every part of itself. We have to start the new collective path and create a just, beautiful, kind and true world. A world where the wolf can graze in peace with the lamb. 
- S.I.: Please take a break and let's start with the development, because you have a lot to explain.